If I Add Hydraulic Fluid to My Benz Will the Hardtop Work Again

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SLBrighton
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Hullo anybody,

I'm after some communication.

Final summer my left paw windscreen hydraulics started leaking a niggling. I stopped using the roof, put the hardtop back on and ordered some replacement hydraulic seals which I will attempt soon on both sides of the windscreen. The mechanism was working fine, just leaking a little afterward use. I've non tried it for a twelvemonth or tried the roll bar until today.

I was going to take the roof off today and hit a problem.

There are no warning lights on and the roof button does non wink after starting the automobile, so that'southward a good affair. I pulled the button back to unlock and information technology started flashing but the windscreen locks didn't piece of work or the rear ones. I can't remember if information technology is supposed to flash when unlatching or not.

Information technology and then started leaking a little downward the windscreen pillar (Information technology worked last time and then leaked, but this time, no noise at all - could the locks exist jammed from lack of employ?). I then pushed the button the other style (to shut) and the roof pulled down at the back. It was already closed and had non unlocked of grade, but it pulled downwardly further, then those cylinders must be are working to some extent.

I tried the roll bar and that went upwards and down no problem.

My thoughts are to accept the roof off manually next calendar week using the tool, repair the front cylinders, change the hydraulic fluid and so run into what happens. In that location was plenty oil in the reservoir a couple of months ago and the hydraulics haven't been used since then, and so I assume it wasn't lack of fluid, merely I didn't bank check today. I will change it though.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Ian

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Tonye
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Are the windows in sync,
Endeavor unlocking just the front end Manually, then pull the switch and encounter if that works.
If the rears are pulling at to the lowest degree yous know the pump is ok.
Hope this is of help, Tony
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Are the windows in sync,
Try unlocking just the front Manually, then pull the switch and come across if that works.
If the rears are pulling at to the lowest degree you know the pump is ok.
Hope this is of help, Tony
Howdy Tony, thanks for your proposition. I did try and sync the windows, i'll try once more. The rears are pulling down, so yes, the hydraulics must exist working. I've not tried the manual tool ever before, merely I know what to practise from a YouTube video. Is information technology straightforward to unlock the fronts? (Remove that pigsty cover under the viser, allen key in and twist?) I'g using the car tomorrow, so don't want to mess information technology up! I might leave information technology until Next week when I don't need the car!
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The fronts lock and unlock in opposite directions. Put key in with spanner cease towards mirror and push button away towards side windows to unlock, towards mirror to lock over again.
My rear locks wouldn't lock unless i forced the front correct a petty considering the micro switch was a chip off. All-time of luck
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Hi, to remove the difficult meridian, you need to switch the central to one and then within a few seconds, operate the roof push button. Don't retrieve it works with the engine running for obvious reasons.
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Howdy, to remove the hard top, you need to switch the fundamental to 1 then within a few seconds, operate the roof button. Don't call back it works with the engine running for obvious reasons.
Hullo, I've always opened the roof (hard acme or soft top) with the engine running. I was always advised to do this to salve the battery. It only doesn't work, when moving
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I e'er raise, lower the soft top with the engine running too, just don't think my difficult height releases when it is running. (MY1998)
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Roof should operate both with and without engine running. The button is always solid red when operating (I will double check that and if I am incorrect volition report back)
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demetrios
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My roof doesn't unlock front or rear latches simply I can see and hear tonneau comprehend slightly moving when I press the button after I take the roof down manually.

With that beingness said, I tin can't find my roof tool. Tin I apply whatsoever other tools to unlatch and lock the roof?

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The front end latches are relatively simple, it's a hex fitting. The balance of them are more difficult as it uses the other end of the tool, a really thin spanner - think bicycle cone spanner.

The problem there is that cone spanners only come in certain sizes, and sods law says none of them match the size for the fixtures on the car. I suspect you'll take to pony upwards and buy the MB part.

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Hi all, has anyone encountered a problem with the mechanism locking upward and unable to open up even manually? I take an issue with the rear left mechanism. It but will not budge.

It looks like a previous owner has had issues also as the lever is pretty mullered. I take ordered a replacement ane so if push comes to shove I will have to cut information technology out.

Any advice on this would exist much appreciated!

Thanks
Will

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Much appreciated, but this is step two. The hard meridian is in identify. I take no access to these elements without disengaging the lock and removing the hard top. It is locked shut with no movement.

Is there are some cables attached to the unit, does anyone know if these are for a limiter switch or a solenoid that locks in place to forbid removal?

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No additional locks or solenoid, they can be very tight to release, lean on it a bit more.
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No additional locks or solenoid, they can be very tight to release, lean on it a scrap more than.
Thanks,
I have leaned on it so much the lever with the cerise tabs at the cease has only deformed. I suspect someone has put the hard meridian on incorrectly and the locking machinery is stuck. Needless to say I will wait until the replacement function arrives and start to cut the old one out. Volition.mail service up what I notice.
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Sometimes with latches it'south a question of relieving the tension to allow to engaging pieces to motion without undue friction. You lot could try getting a friend to put their weight on the hardtop on the jammed side via small stepladder or chair-this might exist enough to release sufficient tension for you to operate the catch?
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Sometimes with latches information technology's a question of relieving the tension to permit to engaging pieces to movement without undue friction. Yous could try getting a friend to put their weight on the hardtop on the jammed side via small stepladder or chair-this might be enough to release sufficient tension for you to operate the catch?

Thanks for the communication. Unfortunatley this did not work. I ended up cutting the latch out. I drilled the end of the spindle to the locking mechanism, and it simply released when the pressure was removed. I fitted the replacement part and it works fine.

The old locking mechanism was covered in grease, which doesnt seem to brand these units piece of work very well. I doubtable at that place was and then much former grease that the locking part could non return to allow the rest to release. Now that this 1 is sorted information technology seems the other side does non want to lock. Again, I suspect it has been over greased and everything is sticking. At least I tin now access information technology to remove and clean it out.

At present I accept to dind out why the pump is not running. Oh the FUN!.

Thanks all.

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